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FTUIY Episode #123: Kali Jaye

Writer's picture: Dr. Jaime Gabriel RaygozaDr. Jaime Gabriel Raygoza

Kali Jaye - Breaking the Burnout Cycle

In episode #123 of Finding the Unicorn in You, titled "How to Give Fewer F*cks," Dr. Jaime G. Raygoza interviews Kali Jaye, a former corporate leader turned empowerment coach. With a master's in psychology and 17 years of corporate experience, Kali now helps overwhelmed female leaders break the burnout cycle through boundary setting.


From Corporate Leadership to Empowerment Coaching

Kali's journey began in community mental health, where she experienced early burnout. She then transitioned to corporate publishing, climbing the ladder from copy editor to leadership positions. While excelling at management and employee development, Kali discovered that increased influence often came with increased demands rather than more ability to implement changes.


Key Leadership Insights

Throughout the interview, Kali shared valuable insights on effective leadership:

  1. Balanced transparency with employees

  2. Navigating corporate agendas while maintaining authenticity

  3. Strategic approach to speaking up about concerns

  4. Regular reevaluation of initiatives

  5. Taking blame for team failures while giving credit for successes


Kali emphasizes that true leadership isn't about knowing everything or claiming credit, but about building community, being transparent, and creating a safe environment where people can do their best work.


Understanding and Overcoming Burnout

Kali offered deep insights into the nature of burnout and recovery:

  • Burnout isn't always about being busy; it can occur even during high workloads if the work is creatively engaging

  • True burnout often manifests as a sense of futility, resentment, and loss of energy

  • Resentment can be a signal of boundary issues

  • Regular breaks are crucial, with research suggesting frequent shorter breaks can be more beneficial than longer vacations

  • Her experience in community mental health, where four weeks minimum vacation was standard due to high stress, shaped her views on necessary recovery time

  • The importance of creating personal systems for work-life balance and recovery


The Unicorn Lesson: Joy Leads to Better Outcomes

Kali's ultimate "unicorn lesson" emphasizes that doing what brings personal joy and fulfillment often leads to better outcomes not just for oneself but for others too. She notes that those who question whether they're being too selfish are usually the ones who need to focus more on self-care, not less.


This powerful insight reminds us that prioritizing our own well-being and happiness isn't selfish – it's essential for being our best selves and positively impacting those around us.


Don't miss our next episode of Finding the Unicorn in You for more inspiring stories and insights into personal growth and professional development!


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